Innholdsfortegnelse for Issue 163 i Prog

Stuckfish formed in 2017 when old schoolfriends Adrian Fisher and Philip Stuckey reconnected over coffee and decided to make music together. The result was the critically acclaimed Calling, released in 2018: a blend of storytelling and melodic rock with a prog twist. The pair launched Sonic Portrait Records, which has developed into a vehicle for Fisher’s production services, and three more Stuckfish albums have since followed: The Watcher (2019), Days Of Innocence (2022) – which led to them being signed to Robert Reed’s White Knight Records – and Stuckfish IV in 2024. The latter hit the Top 10 in the 2024 Prog Readers’ Poll. Now expanded to a five-piece, Fisher and Stuckey are joined by keyboardist Paul McNally, drummer Adam Sayers and Phil Morey on bass, and enjoy an enthusiastic…

Hard-rocking prog veterans Atomic Rooster have announced the release of their first studio album in over four decades. Circle The Sun will be available on CD via Esoteric on October 10. Led by singer-guitarist Steve‘Boltz’ Bolton, who joined the band in 1971 as a replacement for John Du Cann, the new line-up also includes Adrian Gautrey (keyboards and vocals), Shugg Millidge (bass) and drummer Paul Everett. According to the band, the new album“channels the spirit of 1971 album Death Walks Behind You.” Atomic Rooster were formed in 1969 by keyboardist Vincent Crane and drummer Carl Palmer after the pair quit The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown while touring the US. Recruiting singer and bassist Nick Graham, the band released their eponymous debut in 1970. Palmer and Graham soon departed with…

Begun in 2017 as a solo effort by guitarist, bassist and keyboardist Maciej Zamczała in the central Polish town of Inowrocław, HiPoKaMP Projekt soon expanded into a duo after attracting the attention of his former Polish language teacher and drummer Łukasz Oliwkowski, who’d already been playing in Riverside guitarist Maciej Meller’s acoustic side-project Zenith. And with every subsequent release, HiPoKaMP Projekt have seen the steady expansion of their line-up. “We were joined by keyboardist Zbigniew Florek for our third album Futurocklogia,” explains Zamczała. “He was already famous in the prog world with the band Quidam and playing with Colin Bass from Camel. We’d started recording in his studio, so inviting him to join was only a matter of time.” Their extended live line-up now includes Maciej Tonder (bass), Sebastian Niemiec (saxophone)…

Hawkwind’s Hall Of The Mountain Grill signalled a line-up shift and paved the way for a new sonic experience. Rediscover it for yourself with the newly remastered and remixed versions of the classic album that appear on a new limited-edition nine-disc box set. We have one copy to give away to a lucky reader in this issue’s competition. Spread across seven CDs and two Blu-rays, this deluxe package contains a newly remastered version of the classic 1974 album, new mixes from the original 16-track master tapes by VdGG and Camel remixer Stephen W Tayler, 5.1 mixes, rare singles, studio outtakes and live material, including the previously unreleased full show from the Edmonton Sundown, London in January 1974, The 1999 Party at Cleveland USA in March 1974, and a new mix…

Peter and I have been involved in “Pthese Atmos mixes, which has been quite fun,” Tony Banks told Prog in January, just ahead of the original release date for The Lamb box set in March. Now, at least two release dates later, the set will finally arrive at the end of September. The reason for the delays are, well, “Peter and I have been involved in these Atmos mixes.” The key relationship in the entire Genesis universe, when Gabriel and Banks are together there is always considerable respect, magic, humour, fierce competition and disagreement. The two met early at their time at Charterhouse and remain inextricably linked. When in the band together, Gabriel was always trying to sing over Banks’s instrumental passages, and sneakily was getting away with new props,…

“Hall Of The Mountain Grill is the best studio album I did with Hawkwind. I was quite to the front.” Lemmy At the start of 1974, Hawkwind were still very much a band on the up. They’d just completed their first North American tour, with thousands of stateside fans attending every show, and on returning home had immediately embarked on The Ridiculous Roadshow, playing to sold-out concert halls around the UK. Dave Brock told the NME it was so named “because all our tours are just so silly and disorganised”, but they’d become a serious force to be reckoned with in the British rock world since the success of Silver Machine in 1972. They were also a band in search of a new direction. The US shows marked the retirement…

Kjetil Nordhus has one piece of advice for anyone trying to make three albums at the same time: don’t. “I wouldn’t recommend it,” the singer of Norwegian prog rockers Green Carnation admits, the exhaustion almost audible in his voice. “I’m 50 this year and over the last, say, 10 years, I’ve learned the difference between something being 97% good and 100% good. You use a lot of time on the last five or 10%.” Nordhus is speaking from experience. Prog is joining the vocalist on a video call to talk about Green Carnation’s catchily titled new album, A Dark Poem, Part I: The Shores Of Melancholia, the first entry in an eventual trilogy. Without sounding too lofty about it, it’s the start of what’s going to be Green Carnation’s Lord…

In the progressive rock map of the USA, Detroit in the great state of Michigan rarely features. Think of Detroit, and you’re far more likely to link it with Motown and the car industry. But another significant export since 1987 is Discipline. Speaking from his home just outside the city, Matthew Parmenter – vocalist, songwriter and keyboardist of the band for 38 years – recalls the early days of his group, during the somewhat analogue wild west world of cassettes and physical mailing lists. “We played a lot around Detroit and built up a mailing list, transitioning from high school into college with a lot of friends following us. Then we started getting people we didn’t know, but were interested in what we were doing musically. After a while, we…

Not for the first time, Roy Harper is considering his art. “In order to remain current, songs have to pertain to what’s happening in a modern sense,” he declares. “I always aim to write with a sort of timelessness; that’s the number one consideration.” This MO has served him pretty well down the years. His greatest long-form songs – be it I Hate The White Man, The Same Old Rock, One Of Those Days In England or When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease – transcend the era in which they were written. Harper has largely been a social commentator, training his lens on issues ranging from institutional dogma to ecological collapse and various points between. He’s the rebel poet who started out in the folk clubs of 60s Soho – centred…

The Blue Nowhere INSIDEOUTMUSIC  Expect the unexpected from prog metal’s merriest tricksters. Prog metal, showtunes and a level of absurdity that may well exceed the recommended daily dose can all be found within Between The Buried And Me’s 11th studio album. The Blue Nowhere finds them trimmed down to a four-piece, after rhythm guitarist Dustie Waring was ejected when allegations of sexual misconduct emerged on social media. However, there’s no evidence of a slimmer sound and the band sound as musically diverse as they’ve ever been. If BTBAM were Advanced Dungeons & Dragons characters, their alignment would be Chaotic Good, wilfully breaking all the rules with the best of intentions. “There’s a proclivity for cramming contrasting ideas together.” Progressive metalcore remains at their foundation, with growled vocals and heavy guitars…

 1492: Conquest Of Paradise RHINO Greek synthesiser genius’s ostentatious and sometimes overwrought score. Ridley Scott’s 1992 historical epic 1492: Conquest Of Paradise was a box office turkey and critical flop; the liberties it took with the story of its subject, the explorer and brutal coloniser Christopher Columbus, haven’t held up well either. In turn, the soundtrack by Vangelis barely got a mention when the obituaries were written on the synth wizard’s passing in 2022, though that didn’t stop original versions fetching an arm and a leg on Discogs. “Its stronger moments are offset by music that hasn’t aged well.” This reissue at least mitigates any financial concerns that anyone who wants to own a physical copy might have. Artistically, it’s a different matter. While a soundtrack can never be entirely…

VENUE THE NORTHCOURT, ABINGDON, OXFORDSHIRE  DATE 18/07/2025-19/07/2025 There’s a moment when Forgotten Gods’ Mark Cunningham sings Everybody’s Hero – written about Neil Peart – and we’re reminded that great live music truly transcends the mundane and touches the soul. Prog For Peart raises money for Headcase Cancer Trust, which researches glioblastoma multiforme, the disease the Rush drummer died from in 2020. Cunningham, who also organises the event, has recently had his own experience with cancer and faced it with great stoicism. It’s no wonder that today his vocals are soaked through with emotion, underlining the spirit that imbues this friendly annual gathering. Tavananna warm up an already hot venue with intricate jazzy rock and a line-up that includes Dominic Sanderson Band keyboardist Embiye Adalı. She sings softly the exotic Turkish Tune…

Where’s home? Worthing has been home for the last 20 years, during which time it’s blossomed into a groovy little seaside town with enough weirdness to keep us here. What’s your earliest memory of prog? Delia Derbyshire and the BBC Radiophonic Workshop and the general TV theme music of the 1970s were embedded early on. I heard Hocus Pocus when I was very young, too – something was unlocked that day. What was your first prog album? Phaedra by Tangerine Dream. It was like being transported into a whole new universe and it’s still as immersive and mesmerising as ever. It affected my expectations of what music can be. And the latest? Death In Vegas – Death Mask. I’d hesitate to call them prog but our cat definitely thinks this…

1 Shadows And Moonbeams Taken from Stuckfish IV 2 Lifeline Taken from Stuckfish IV 3 Fly (On Feathers Of Hope) Taken from Stuckfish IV 4 SkiesFall Taken from Stuckfish IV 5 Age Of Renewal Taken from Days Of Innocence 6 Days Of Innocence Taken from Days Of Innocence 7 Thief In The Night Taken from Days Of Innocence 8 The Bridge (The Spans The Edge Of Time) Taken from The Watcher 9 Run Taken from The Watcher 10 Fallen Angels (feat. Thijs van Leer) Taken from The Watcher 11 Calling Taken from Calling 12 Something To Believe In Taken from Calling Scan here to download or follow the instructions on the right How to download your free digital sampler from Stuckfish 1. Visit bit.ly/stuckfish_sampler. Type it straight into your browser…

After its sold-out comeback last year, Barcelona’s intimate showcase, Be Prog! My Friend, is back on September 26-27 with “the best possible line-up”. The festival in Catalonia’s sun-soaked capital was resurrected after a six-year slumber and its reconfigured guise worked a treat. It’s moved to a smaller, but wonderfully quirky, corner of Poble Espanyol, the open-air museum that knots together streets and buildings inspired by a rich history of Spanish culture and architecture. Previous headliners have included Steven Wilson, Jethro Tull, and Steve Hackett and this year’s line-up has been carefully curated to showcase a diverse selection of acts from across the prog spectrum. “Be Prog! reflects my musical tastes,” says chief organiser Juan Antonio Muñoz. “It’s nice to show different kinds of artists.” With that, he wants to surprise.…

Rick Wakeman has been telling Prog about Melancholia, his first-ever set of self-penned solo piano pieces, which is out on October 17 via Madfish. The pieces are the result of his daily dalliances on the ivories and the moods they can often express. “I sit at the piano every day,” he says, “and sometimes things are happening which affect the way I play. Melancholy is an emotion, and not necessarily a bad one. We all have melancholic moments, and more often than not those are when you’re on your own, perhaps just sitting with your own thoughts.” The titles of the pieces seem self-explanatory: Sitting At The Window, Pathos and Watching Life, for instance. In keeping with that simplicity, he took a spontaneous, unlaboured approach to the recordings at his…

Norwegian art-rockers Gazpacho are set to return with their first LP in half a decade. Magic 8-Ball, released on October 31 via Kscope, is a concept album consisting of what keyboard player Thomas Andersen calls eight“short stories about people who find themselves in extraordinary situations.” The album’s title is taken from the spherical toy that offers up a set of random phrases every time it’s shaken – a reference to the album’s overall theme. “It’s about the randomness of life,” says Andersen. “Each story is about a roll of the dice. You could say the people in the songs are victims of randomness.” Things could have been very different. After finishing 2020’s Fireworker, Gazpacho began working on a concept album based on a comet hitting Earth and the global population’s…

Genesis’s sixth long-player, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway was a complex, dense double album about Rael, a Puerto Rican street punk, with a troubled gestation; the accompanying concerts were intended to be a theatrical tour de force. The entire enterprise would have proved challenging as it was, but then Peter Gabriel handed in his notice a few dates into the tour. In a mixture of brand-new and archive interviews with key players and associates, as well as on-the-record information, this is the story of the ambitious tour to support the band’s sometimes bewildering but hugely influential album. “I had a big lump in my throat when we did the last gigs in France. A big chapter in my life was coming to an end, and I couldn’t tell anyone.”Peter…

You’ve surely made it when NASA names an asteroid after you. For Jeff Wayne, such a celestial christening took him by surprise this January. “I have a fan – Simon Lowery – who works for the European Organisation for Astronomical Research,” he explains. “He’s been a believer in my musical version of The War Of The Worlds for so many years, and he deals with all the other space agencies, including NASA. So, I’m working away in my studio and get this email from him. The subject was: ‘You won’t believe this…’” “I never did foresee the life that The War Of The Worlds has had. But I did feel that the original double album had a way of holding you as a listener.” At Lowery’s instigation, NASA had officially…

He started as a tea boy at Trident Studios in 1974, but Stephen W Tayler has since worked with a dazzling array of artists, including Kate Bush, Rush and Peter Gabriel. Most recently, he’s become known for his 5.1 surround sound and stereo remixes for artists including Be-Bop Deluxe, Van der Graaf Generator, Camel, The Moody Blues and Hawkwind. His mixing skills have graced In Search Of Space, Doremi Fasol Latido and Space Ritual box sets, and now he’s added Hall Of The Mountain Grill to the list. The multitrack tapes for HOTMG are missing – how did you ‘demix’ and then remix the album from the master? I use an algorithm for detecting and separating the components, or ‘stems’ – this then allows you to remix using these individual…

The cover of Jakko Jakszyk’s new album, Son Of Glen, features a photograph of Jakko and his sometime musical partner Louise Patricia Crane sitting at opposite ends of a plush banquette in a Belfast bar named The Spaniard. The bar’s walls are covered in religious iconography: crucifixes, icons of Christ, the full religious Monty. But two subtle adjustments have been made. On the wall behind Crane, a Belfast native, is a vintage photograph of a pale-skinned, black-haired woman. On the wall behind Jakszyk is another black and white photograph, this one of a dark-haired man wearing a shirt and tie. Both look like they were taken in the 50s or early 60s. Who are these two people gazing down the decades? The woman is Peggy Curran, Jakszyk’s biological mother, who…

There’s something unusual in the water over in Scandinavia; it continues to excel as a hotbed of musical creativity. Sweden’s Gaupa have already staked their claim in recent years as one of the area’s hottest free-thinking exports, and their current release is likely to cement their place in the progosphere further. It’s only a mini-album, but Fyr packs a powerful punch, and it’s perhaps all the more impressive given it comes after the quartet had to press the restart button when guitarist Daniel Nygren called it quits last year. Prog is speaking to sole guitarist David Rosberg and bassist Erik Sävström on a video call ahead of Fyr’s release, but amid the celebration it soon appears that the recording process behind it – which was more fragmented than usual –…

The power of a compelling narrative can propel an album into the realm of myth. The fractious and protracted recording of The Beatles’ White Album, the bloodshot debauchery of the Stones’ Exile On Main Street, the antagonism and power plays that fed into Pink Floyd’s The Wall – all of those records have been given an extra dimension because of how they were created. So it is with The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. Had Genesis decided in 1974 that their forthcoming double LP should be Mike Rutherford’s suggestion of a musical adaptation of Antoine de Saint-Exupéry’s The Little Prince, and had Peter Gabriel not been shown there was life outside his group, it could have all been so different. Instead, they elected to go with Gabriel’s idea: a concept…

 Ramshackled SPIRIT OF UNICORN MUSIC  The late Yes drummer’s only solo-led album revisited. It’s worth remembering that between the release of 1971’s Fragile and 1974’s Relayer, Yes had steadily risen from plucky progressive rock hopefuls to become bona fide superstars, selling millions of albums around the globe and effortlessly filling increasingly larger arenas around North America and Europe. “Stylistically, it has more in common with American soft rock.” With relationships inevitably souring due to clashing egos and the financial imperative to keep the cash cow rolling along, the idea of enabling every bandmember to record a solo album could be viewed either as a cunning managerial sleight of hand designed to let off some creative steam outside of the parent band, or a collective act of hubris. This being Yes,…

VENUE THE BEDFORD, LONDON DATE 16/07/2025  SUPPORT WHIMSICAL CREATURE There’s a quiet grandeur to The Bedford’s circular back room. Its lavish double staircase and ornate velvet curtains transport the audience from an unsuspecting pub to a big top, as primed for amateur wrestling and drag cabaret as it is for live music. Musically, Whimsical Creature match the venue’s decadence. Pieces like The Stargazer and A Journey Of Five Lifetimes are unapologetically proggy, filled with unpredictable time signature changes and chord sequences so sophisticated that they sometimes abandon tonality altogether. Even more impressive is the duo’s ability to remain locked into increasingly jagged vocal harmonies without ever falling flat. It’s a reminder that prog doesn’t always need to be large-scale. With little more than guitar, flute and voice, this half-hour showcase…

Five years since the passing of their leader Tim Smith – partially paralysed after a stroke and heart attack in 2008 – British art-prog ensemble Cardiacs have regrouped to finish their long-awaited double LP titled LSD, due out on September 19 via Alphabet Business Concern LSD’s recordings were begun by guitarist, vocalist, songwriter and producer Smith in 2007. Smith’s bandmates Craig Fortnam and Kavus Torabi worked on further arrangements with Smith’s feedback while he was incapacitated. Following Smith’s death, completing LSD became a priority for Cardiacs co-founder and bassist Jim Smith, older brother of Tim, now executive producer. “I went into the studio [Apollo 8, in 2020] and everything was busted, so I did a complete rebuild first,” Jim tells Prog. “Then me and [co-producer] Kavus got together and just plodded…

The Emerald Dawn return this autumn with an ambitious new album, the environmentally-themed The Land, The Sea, The Air. Although the double vinyl release will be in spring 2026, the CD version will be released in two parts, with the first out on October 6 via World’s End Records and the second in the spring. But despite recent moves worldwide to roll back environmental safeguards, the timing of the subject matter is coincidental, as the band explain. “We’ve both been involved in the environmental movement for a while, so we decided it was time to actually write some music about it,” says Ally Carter. “The first disc has four tracks, built around two long pieces concentrating on what humanity has done to the sea and the air.” While established fans will…

Berkshire-based pagan folk rockers Spriggan Mist will release their seventh studio album, The Glare on November 2 after signing with Progrock.com’s Essentials. Band founder and bassist Baz Cilia is delighted they’re joining fellow festival favourites such as Solstice and Ghost Of The Machine as labelmates. “What’s special about this album is it’s the first time we have had a stabilised line-up that really gels with what we are doing,” Cilia says. “Watching the band grow and become more interesting to the prog scene has been amazing. But staying true to our identity has always been at the heart of what we do. I think we’ve captured our essence on The Glare, but at the same time, have produced it in such a way that suits everybody as it’s got folk and…

“I was about 12 or 13 when NWOBHM came along and I started learning guitar and Rush’s Moving Pictures came out about then. I bought it and I instantly fell in love with Tom Sawyer and then I got into Limelight, but the whole album I really loved. That album was a departure for Rush where they went into their Police-influenced stage. So I thought, what else is there by Rush? I first went to A Farewell To Kings, which is amazing because it’s got Xanadu on it, which is a classic piece of work. And then I went to the shop and bought Fly By Night, which I absolutely loved and my favourite song on that is In The End. It’s a very raw album. From there I went…

MAXINQUAYE (Fourth And Broadway Records, 1995) Today’s music headlines would have it that the mid-90s were fuelled solely by the brash hedonism of Britpop, but this is to wilfully ignore the new musical eclecticism that followed in the wake of rave’s huge impact against the backdrop of a country increasingly disgusted with political sleaze and scandal. And it’s here that Maxinquaye slunk in with the stealth of a cat returning from a night of nocturnal mystery. Tricky’s debut solo album, named after his mother Maxine Quaye, was immediately at odds with the guitar-led purveyors of the day as it crept, whispered and murmured into the collective ear like a prophet of paranoia. Gloriously original, its power to intrigue, disturb and seduce remains undiminished even three decades after its release. A…

“We’re not trying to show off; it’s about creating something genuine that feels emotionally compelling.”Clark McMenemy Modern technology has enabled the formation of bands that otherwise would never have existed. Ihlo are one such example. Having met via a Facebook meme group back in 2016, vocalist Andy Robison and guitarist and primary songwriter Phil Monro formed the band not in a dimly-lit rehearsal space, but via the internet, through meticulously-exchanged audio files and online collaborations. “I’d gotten to the point of posting some demo-quality stuff online,” Monro explains. “And I knew Andy did a bit of singing and a bit of electronic music, so I thought I’d send him a track I wrote. He was like, ‘That’s great, do you want any singing?’” From there, the two “messed around” with…

“If it feels like 15 minutes, then you’ve failed; if it flies, you’ve succeeded.” That’s Robert Reed’s response when explaining the way he and Steve Balsamo have made what initially resemble three to four-minute pop songs into more expansive pieces as Chimpan A. It certainly seems that way to Prog’s ears on hearing Music Is Art – Vol 1, the long-fermenting fruit of the project that the pair have been maintaining on and off since the early 2000s. Following up 2020’s The Empathy Machine, Reed (best known elsewhere for his longtime stewardship of Magenta) and Balsamo (who previously worked with Deep Purple’s Jon Lord and Alan Parsons Project co-writer Eric Woolfson) have created an album’s worth of original material and then backed it with another set of inventively tackled cover…

Prog has always been a vehicle for exploring vast inner landscapes: phantasmagorical journeys through the imagination and into the depths of the human mind. For Elaine Samuels – founder, composer, singer, and rhythm guitarist of Kindred Spirit Band – her latest musical odyssey The Journey Within didn’t begin in some distant cosmos. It came from a grounded moment during the first proper get-together of the band’s new line-up. “We’d appeared at a couple of festivals where the band played some of our old songs, but they told me they wanted to work on some new material that we could all contribute to. So I suggested we go on a creative day to see what makes us all tick.” It was during this session that bassist Keith Buckman (The Far Meadow,…

Moon Halo is a three-cornered musical project which has, for the most part, slipped under the prog radar. This, the members admit, stems from operating within a crowded market and without the requisite promotional cogs turning to support them. However, they hope their third studio album, Trichotomy, will capture the imagination of a wider audience. And with 12 diverse, engaging songs that stretch over 70 minutes, the album certainly merits close attention. “Luckily, we’ve built up a bit of a following over the years with our various projects,” says lead vocalist Marc Atkinson, also known for his work with Riversea, Mandalaband, Nine Stones Close and Lee Abraham. “But trying to reach outside the audience we already have is the biggest challenge for us as we don’t have a manager or…

A Dark Poem, Part I: The Shores Of Melancholia SEASON OF MIST Norwegian prog metal explorers embark on an epic trilogy. The Shores Of Melancholia is the start of a project Green Carnation have been working towards since their return in 2016. The Norwegians had a trilogy in mind before their 2020 comeback album, Leaves Of Yesteryear, and the first act of A Dark Poem promises a spectacular long-form adventure ahead. They’re no strangers to lengthy excursions – 2002’s classic Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness was a single hour-long song – but this format allows them to construct a single strand of creativity with as many changes in structure, tempo and dynamics as they see fit. “The songwriting is understated yet captivating.” As the album title suggests, this journey…

VENUE SOUTH FACING FESTIVAL, CRYSTAL PALACE BOWL, LONDON DATE 07/08/2025 Few bands of Mogwai’s vintage can base a quarter of their set on a brand-new album – in this case The Bad Fire – without eliciting a desire to head to the bar while grumbling about wanting to hear the old stuff. But then again, few bands this far down the line maintain such a high standard of compositional quality control and still move forward without looking over their shoulders. And with material that’s found them defining the notion of bittersweet, it’s within the live arena that Mogwai shift up several gears thanks to equal parts vulnerability and sonic swagger. Indeed, it’s precisely that vulnerability that puts a stop to one of the blemishes that frequently stains modern-day concert-going like a…

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